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Sept. 21, 2009 / With Jim Conway

6:32 MAS: Jim: Will you be available for private sessions at the retreat?

6:36 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: MAS: AND ALL ATTENDING THE RETREAT. Yes there will be time at the retreat for us to connect with each other 1-on-1. Or in small groups. These times will be less intensive than what we might do on a telephone counseling session. But Jan and I are hoping to connect with anybody who wants to visit with us personally.

6:32 judysan: Dr Conway, often H is sarcastic and speaks to me (and our 2 kids and players on the high school team he coaches) with a tone...but then he apologizes.. I feel like I am working on your 3 things...what else should I do?

6:38 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: Your husband is very frustrated with life and that is why he is lashing out. Continue to ask God to give you a great deal of patience.

5:51 LisaK [Administrator]: Good Evening. Welcome to Monday Night Chat with Jim. I’m Lisa, the Office Manager for Midlife Dimensions. I’m blessed to serve the Lord through our Chat Room Ministry which has helped so many people through their spouse’s midlife journey. Jim Conway will be online with us shortly and as he reads your questions, he’ll dictate his answers for me to type and post for you to see. He will answer all questions that come in before the end of the hour. If you would like to show your appreciation to Jim, you can make a tax-deductible contribution to Jim’s ministry via Paypal at www.Midlife.com. Funds support the Chat Room and Website upkeep. Thank you.


5:59 Swanlake: Hello all, how are you tonight?

6:00 helpme: Hello everyone :)

6:00 sbky: hello again all

6:00 LisaK [Administrator]: Jim will be with us any moment now. I’m awaiting his call.

6:14 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Hello Everyone, Jan and I are back from the International Conference on aging, in Chicago, where we were speaking last week. Just as we were getting ready to leave the conference, I received an email that one of my very close college friends had died 2 days before - while we were speaking at the conference. God had arranged for us to have a 6:30 pm flight out of Chicago - this allowed us to drive an hour and a half to speak at my friend's funeral in Kankee, Illinois, and then get back to Chicago in time to catch our flight to Michigan. Tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. I will be going to the hospital to have a cataract removed from my right eye and a lens implanted. I won't be able to see for a few days, but we are continuing to prepare for some board meetings that we are to go to in Virginia Beach, VA, on Oct. 6-7, then we will fly directly to the retreat in South Bend. The good news is that I will be able to see you now! So Jan and I are looking forward to sharing with all of you - it's not too late to invite a friend who also needs help with their marriage, or needs to grow spiritually. They'd enjoy our sessions too.

6:01 sbky: I am the only one not a facilitator

6:02 helpme: sbky; Probably not for long :)

6:02 Swanlake: sbky - it is still early, the room will fill up quickly soon, Monday is the busiest night

6:03 sbky: all the pain my h has caused my d lately. have (i know this sounds stupid) but seems to make me feel more comfortable.. more okay with things they way they are..does that make sense

6:07 sbky: hello all

6:08 judysan: hello, this is my first time on/in a chat room

6:14 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Judysan, WELCOME! I’m Jim Conway, President of Midlife Dimensions. This room is here to encourage you and answer questions you have about your current situation. Important: Do NOT share personal information such as an email or home address, phone #, or any names. Here’s how to join in: 1) Type the name of the person you want to speak to followed by your entry. 2) You’re limited to 250 keystrokes per entry. If your entry is long, then click “chat” to post it and start your next entry with the word “continued”. 3) Type “To All” if you have a general entry not directed to one person. 4) If you’d like to contact someone in the room, email or call us at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or 714-768-1777. We’ll have them contact you to exchange information.

6:09 sbky: welcome judysan

6:09 judysan: Jim, I love your (and sally's) books, “Men in Midlife Crisis”, “Your Husband’s Midlife Crisis”, and “Women in Midlife Crisis”. My husband fell in love (only EA so far) with a married woman in his office last winter and we have been struggling with what to do. she wants to stay married to her husband but she leads my h on with emails and voice mails...my husband is head over heels in love with her....we are both in counseling. my h does not think he wants to stay married to me but he seems confused as we still sleep in the same bed...he does not want to give up his "friendship" with the ow....Jim, what should I do?


6:18 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: The first thing you need to do is try and discover why your husband would want to be away from you. How you’re doing in these 3 areas? Midlife men complain that their wives: 1) are naggy, controlling, and often boss them around like children (sometimes men do act like children): 2) are overweight, out of shape, and don’t care about physical appearance. (Men are very visual, & when their wife looks good to them, that translates that she is interested in sex. A high priority in a man’s life is regular, exciting sex for which he doesn’t have to beg): and 3) have not had a new thought since they got married. (They complain that their wives are not growing intellectually or in their careers, which makes them very dependent and clingy -- which is often negative to a midlife man.)

6:10 Swanlake: Hello judysan, welcome to chat?

6:10 Surety2: judysan: welcome

6:11 Surety2: DigiMom...haven’t talk with you in a while, how are you doing these days?

6:11 sbky: hello plum

6:11 Surety2: hi everyone

6:12 Plumcrazy: Lisa -How is your H?


6:00 LisaK [Administrator]: Plumcrazy, He’s doing pretty good. Still home for another month probably, waiting for the cyst to shrink. We saw the doctor today, so I’ll post an update on the website later. Thanks for asking.

6:15 kbird: Dr Conway, my h and I are days away from divorce and he is professing his faith in Christ to me. I listen and encourage and pray that someone will come along and provide him direction that a Christian man doesn't divorce his wife. Is this typically of a MLC to profess their faith. My husband has rarely attended church.

6:21 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: kbird: I’m glad that your husband is confessing to you that he is a Christian. As he has a growing relationship with God, this will help to stabilize his decisions. Keep working at eliminating any issues which might be causing your husband to follow through on the divorce. At the same time, remember that a divorce does not necessarily mean that it's all over - sometimes mlc men need to feel that they are free. So keep working on your own growth and change, and continue your intense prayer.

6:15 judysan: Dr. Jim Conway, thanks for the details. my husband fell in love (only EA so far) with a married woman in his office last winter and we have been struggling with what to do. she wants to stay married to her husband but she leads my h on with emails and voice mails...my husband is head over heals in love with her....we are both in counseling. my h does not think he wants to stay married to me but he seems confused as we still sleep in the same bed...he does not want to give

6:24 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: remember that midlife crisis has a lot of fantasy attached. Some of the exhilaration of falling in love again is very compelling to men and women during midlife. Continue working on all of the growing and changing you can, and do as much as possible to let your husband know what a great man he has been in your life. Remember the Bible verse - "The Lord moves the heart of the king like a river of water wherever God wills." God is at work in your husband and this is a good time for both of you to change so that the end result will be a stronger marriage. The other woman is NOT THE ISSUE.


6:17 Surety2: MAS : how was your day?

6:18 kbird: Dr. Conway: What is your advice on handling this situation? I want to have hope, but there have been so many ups and downs, it seems that satan is using this just to hurt me a little more.

6:27 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: kbird: It is very important not to allow your emotions and your spiritual life to go up and down in the same way your husband goes up and down on his rollercoaster. This is the time to really focus on your personal spiritual growth.

6:19 MAS: Surety: Hello, my dear. How are you? I’m not doing too well today, I’m afraid.

6:19 Surety2: MAS what are you afraid of?

6:19 Plumcrazy: Bye SBKY

6:20 Surety2: Jim@6:18,can following a career cause them to feel abandoned or is that an excuse

6:29 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: If a man has trouble with his career, he is very likely to feel insecure.

6:21 MAS: Surety: It's just an expression. I just mean that I’m not doing so well today.

6:21 Plumcrazy: ALL_I am encouraged by H's actions at the hospital yesterday. Running my back when I threw up. He hate when people throw up so for him to be there for me was a big thing

6:22 Surety2: MAS: When I am afraid.. I watch Facing the giants, listen to the works and music in the DVD. I write a lot in my journal, and cry out in prayer.....Oh I walk a lot too, I find it very refreshing.... I spent many hours

6:22 judysan: Dr Conway, continued, up his "friendship" with the ow....Dr Conway, what should I do?

6:22 Surety2: MAS cont walking and crying out to God.

6:22 MAS: Plumcrazy: Are you feeling any better today? How are you doing?

6:23 Plumcrazy: All-So last nite I told the H "Thank you for rubbing my back when I was sick, I know it bothers you when people get sick. H said, "not a problem. Then he added Your Welcome

6:23 MAS: Surety: I keep thinking about everything my H said in our last conversation. Then I just break down.

6:23 Surety2: Plumcrazy ; that’s right you were suffering so with kidney stones right.... I hope too you are finding some relief.

6:24 Surety2: Plumcrazy: what a blessing for him to be there in any way...

6:24 Plumcrazy: Surety-I still haven’t passed the kidney stone but right now I am feeling a little better

6:25 kbird: Dr Conway: What is so confusing is when I try to break away from him. I told him I didn't think we should talk or see one another for a while and he refuses to accept that. He tells me he is protecting me, by divorcing me. He looks at himself in a negative way. I encourage as much as I can. I encourage him not to rely on his own strength, but to trust in the Lord but I don't think he can accept that.

6:31 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: kbird: I think your husband both wants to be with you and away from you. He will need to sort out this confusion - you are right on track with your comments and encouragements to him.

6:25 Surety2: MAS: please don’t dwell on his words..... Find a way to put them behind you.... I know it’s not easy, but they are so confused and they use those conversations to find peace for themselves. It's not about you or his harsh words... He is confused

6:25 MAS: Cindy J. How are you today?

6:26 Plumcrazy: Surety-H even came home 2 and a half hrs after he went to work to check on me. Teased me "I came to see if you were still in the land of the living"

6:26 Surety2: MAS: what Jim is saying to judysan... is very important for each of us.

6:26 kbird: Dr Conway: cont
6:26 Plumcrazy: Surety- I was so surprised he came home to check on me

6:26 Surety2: Plumcrazy.... how sweet.... what a blessing

6:27 CindyJ: Hi Mas and everyone. I’m going good! Just got home from my part-time job.

6:27 Surety2: MAS: I had to realize what my part was and what I need to work on in me.... I know God has a plan for you and he will reveal it to you about all this..

6:27 MAS: Surety: It's not so much that his words are harsh. They just seem so final. And HE says he is very happy and content with his life. He doesn't want to try to work on having a relationship.

6:28 Plumcrazy: Surety-But then I heard H talking to person on the internet. Has headset. Was giving info about himself and his background and I got upset. I said you tell the kids not to give personal info out

6:28 MAS: Surety: I am just so very tired...physically, mentally and emotionally.

6:29 Plumcrazy: Surety-But the real issue is I was worried he was talking to another woman. Old insecurities slipped out

6:29 Surety2: MAS: they really don’t want to work on it right now.... they are very selfish and self absorbed, their words are in way to protect us so we do not rely on them.

6:29 Plumcrazy: Surety- But I stopped myself from saying anymore and helped D with homework

6:30 Surety2: MAS: they want us to thing they are happy, but in fact they really are not. This is a life changing journey for them, and for us.

6:30 Surety2: Jim@629.... what if it was my career? not his....

6:32 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: If a woman has lots of success in her career, it frequently will cause an insecure man to feel even more insecure.

6:31 MAS: Surety: Then I was talking to my mother today about all the negative things he had put me through and how much I put up with for so many years. Then he just left me. She feels he had it planned all along.

6:31 judysan: Dr Conway, I have stopped doing anything that may be viewed as controlling...I am giving him tons of space, I weigh less than I did when we married and am in excellent shape. I am becoming spiritual and forming a relationship with god...

6:32 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: I am very proud of you, you are doing the right stuff!!!

6:32 Surety2: Plumcrazy.... that had to be weird.... but take in that he was truly there when you were at your worst and his popping in today... They are little blessings

6:32 MAS: Jim: Will you be available for private sessions at the retreat?

6:36 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: MAS: AND ALL ATTENDING THE RETREAT. Yes there will be time at the retreat for us to connect with each other 1-on-1. Or in small groups. These times will be less intensive than what we might do on a telephone counseling session. But Jan and I are hoping to connect with anybody who wants to visit with us personally.

6:32 judysan: Dr Conway, often H is sarcastic and speaks to me (and our 2 kids and players on the high school team he coaches) with a tone...but then he apologizes.. I feel like I am working on your 3 things...what else should I do?

6:38 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: Your husband is very frustrated with life and that is why he is lashing out. Continue to ask God to give you a great deal of patience.

6:33 kbird: Dr Conway: Thank you for your advice once again. It is 9:30 here on the east coast...so I am going to say "Goodnight"

6:39 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: kbird: I’m also on the EAST time zone, I hope you have a good night.

6:33 Swanlake: David Alan - hey how are you, nice to see you here tonight

6:33 Surety2: Jim@ 632 are insecurity and negativity twins.... to they always do hand in hand.

6:40 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: yes, frequently insecurity and negativity go together. But remember there are other traits also seen at the same time, such as self-centeredness, anger, confusion, etc.

6:33 Plumcrazy: Jim-I have been sick with a kidney stone attack yesterday morning. I was surprised by husband’s actions. H watched over me as they loaded me into the ambulance and took my vitals. Then when H got to hospital I was getting sick. H asked if I was ok. I said no then he rubbed my back while I got sick. Big deal since he can’t handle people getting sick. So later I thanked H for rubbing my back. I said "Thank you for rubbing my back, I know it bothers you when people throw up" H said "no problem. Your welcome

6:41 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Plumcrazy: We all are very proud of your husband's response - that's also a good sign that he wants to be connected in some way with you.

6:33 David Alan: Hi all.

6:33 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Hey David Alan - great to see you again!

6:34 CindyJ: Hi David Alan! It's always good to see you.

6:34 David Alan: Hi Jim. :-)

6:34 David Alan: ((((Cindy))))

6:35 David Alan: Thank you all for your prayers for the loss of my Dad. It has been a real struggle for me.

6:35 CindyJ: Plum....are you ok now?

6:36 judysan: Dr Conway, sometimes I feel like giving up on the marriage because he does not seem remorseful about OW....I have to stay patient..I have not gotten angry even though he's said some rough things to me about our marriage like he hasn't been happy for the past 7-10 years but he never told me that until the OW came into the picture. I know I can change and be better...do you think he will wake up and realize what he could lose (me, 2 kids)?

6:45 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Judysan, remember that some men are looking for an excuse to have an affair. That's why I encourage women to work hard at the things which men commonly complain about.


6:36 MAS: Jim: That's great. Thank you.

6:37 Plumcrazy: CINDY_I am feeling a little better

6:39 MAS: David Alan: Although we have never "met", I’m truly sorry to hear about the loss of your father. Please know my prayers are with you.

6:39 David Alan: judysan: Be aware - your husband's MLC is causing him to see only the negative things about your marriage... and amplifying those things to an extreme.

6:40 MAS: Surety: Did you receive my e-mail from earlier today?

6:40 David Alan: Thank you MAS.

6:41 Surety2: MAS Yes about the later flight..? I will email you details.

6:41 judysan: Dr. Conway, what is he so frustrated with, do you think? he also lost a lot of weight and looks good and I tell him so, but I think he wants to look good for the OW, what is he so frustrated with, do you think? he also lost a lot of weight and looks good and I tell him so, but I think he wants to look good for the OW

6:48 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: If your husband is losing a lot of weight, he is definitely trying to look younger and he will want you to also look younger. Remember that men are extremely visual, so for you and your husband, weight will be a big issue. Also, keep looking cute and convince him that he is not married to a midlife woman. Maybe we should talk by phone.


6:41 soulcoach: Ok, let’s see if I can stay in tonight!

6:42 MAS: Surety: Okay, thanks.

6:42 Surety2: Jim@ 640 thank you... I have seen those too, and cold lifeless eyes. Is withdrawal a real soul searching time for our h?


6:49 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: Withdrawal is a time for reflection, but usually it starts out as a time to escape pain and pressure.

6:42 Surety2: MAS: I apologize if I come on too strong..I do not mean too. Hopefully it doesn’t come out that way.

6:43 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Plumcrazy - by the way - how are you doing now with the kidney stone attack? Jan had her gall bladder removed about a month ago and feel great now.

6:43 Plumcrazy: Jim H also came home from work this morning to check on me. I was very surprised. I am waiting for the kidney stone to pass. The pain and nausea come and go. Pain meds were making me feel sick so I stopped taking them. I had my gallbladder out 11yrs Ago. I am glad Jan feels better.

6:51 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Plumcrazy: I hope that the kidney stone passes soon and in the meantime, keep remembering that God is working on your husband as well as in you.

6:44 David Alan: judysan: I remember during my own MLC feeling a powerful desire to make myself look better for the OW - and getting irritated when my wife noticed. In my own irrational mind, my wife's attention was too little - too late.

6:44 MAS: Surety: Oh no, not at all! Please feel free to say whatever is on your mind. I welcome suggestions and advice.

6:45 Surety2: David: I too am so sorry to hear about your father... God’s blessings during this time.

6:45 judysan: David Alan, thanks...so should I not encourage...when I do, he also says I look good....what happened with the OW, for you, David Alan?

6:46 Surety2: David: @ 639 very profound statement.....one I forget at times, and take my h words so personal...this journey really messes with our self esteem.

6:46 David Alan: My father lived a good long life. He was 84 and a very happy man. I was so proud of him - and his perseverance. I hope someday to be thought of as well as he was.

6:47 Plumcrazy: Jim I was wondering if we could say a prayer for a friend’s father-in-law. He is in his nineties, has cancer that has taken half of his face, Alzheimer’s and bladder cancer. He was admitted to hospital today..the poor man has been thru so much. Jim, that if it is his time he will finally be able to find peace

6:53 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Plumcrazy: AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM. Join me in prayer. "God, we ask for this 90 year old man, that you would draw him very close to you, so that he has a deep connection with you and that he is ready to step into eternity. And remind all of us that our days are short and we need to be living them for you. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen."


6:48 Surety2: David How wonderful that you experienced a great life with your father.... My Dad is a huge part of my life.

To all: This is Lisa the Office Manager. I just want to remind you that if you have a private question you don’t wish to discuss here, please consider scheduling a 1-on-1 phone counseling session with Jim. Contact us at 714-768-1777 or This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. to set up a session. You can find information on phone counseling on our website: www.midlife.com. Remember, Jim always offers his live counseling in the chat room without cost. If you wish to donate to our ministry to support the Website/Chat Room upkeep, please do so at www.Midlife.com. Thank you.

6:49 MAS: David Alan: Did you actually go through MLC yourself? I would really love to hear a man's perspective on it. My H very much implies to me that it's all too little and too late. What is your marital situation now, if you don't mind my asking?

6:49 judysan: Dr. Conway, thanks, yes, I was thinking the phone would be good

6:49 David Alan: Surety2: I never appreciated him more than after I made it through my MLC. He was a rock.

6:50 Plumcrazy: David Sorry for your loss

6:50 Surety2: Jim@649 do we just sit back, and let them reflect and escape, but still encourage and show God's love/

6:54 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: Remember that we are not sitting back passively - we are actively changing anything we can change, at the same time we are prayerfully asking God to work all things for good in our lives as well as our mate's life.


6:50 sugarmama: Dr Jim my h said last sun he didn't want to return home and has changed his deposit to another account as of Oct 1 I don't know what to do he is still calling and such as that and I saw him sat at bday party help

6:56 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: sugarmama: Have you had the opportunity to read 2 of our books - "Men in Midlife Crisis" and "When A Mate Wants Out"?

6:51 David Alan: MAS: My sweet wife and I are more in love than ever and working on the second half of our marriage. Praise God.

6:51 CindyJ: David Alan, if you know, what brought on your mlc?

6:51 MAS: David Alan: That is so wonderful!

6:51 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Sugarmama, WELCOME!


6:52 MAS: David Alan: Please tell me: How did you recover from your MLC?

6:53 MAS: David Alan: How long did it take?

6:53 David Alan: Cindy: I’m not sure what brought it on - it actually came on early for me (age 40 or so). But I do know that it combined with some deep woundedness I carried inside to push me over the edge into very damaging behaviors.

6:54 Surety2: Amen Jim

6:54 MAS: MAS: AMEN

6:54 David Alan: MAS: The process took several years... and it was spotty. I moved back and forth between stages.

6:55 MAS: David Alan: How did your wife deal with it? Was it she that helped you get over it?

6:55 Surety2: David : how did you handle the depression and withdrawal.... and your dear wife how did she help you if there is a way?

6:55 David Alan: Jim: AMEN!

6:56 Surety2: Jim@ by we you mean our h? are not sitting back passively? they are working and growing

7:02 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: Surety2: I encourage the mate who has been left to be growing and changing as well as deepening their trust walk with God.


6:56 MAS: David Alan: Did you move out or were you still living with your wife?

6:56 sugarmama: thanks I just need some advice he says he loves me just not in love with me

6:57 David Alan: MAS: My wife was struggling just to hang on to some sanity. She didn't acknowledge the MLC for some time... and she still has questions about it.

6:57 MAS: sugarmama: That is the same speech that we all get.

6:57 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: We still have about 3 minutes left, and before anyone logs out, I want to thank you all for coming. Please come again and invite your friends! Remember; the Sun./Wed./Fri. sessions are open to share and encourage each other, with the assistance of our trained facilitators.. The Mon. session is primarily a Q and A time with me in the room. Chat room hours are: Sunday, Wednesday and Friday: 6-7 pm Pacific Time. Monday (live chat with me): 6-7 pm Pacific Time. And Saturdays at 1:00 pm PST.

6:57 sugarmama: yes I have and currently re-reading when a mate want out

6:58 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: David Alan. Jan and I are truly sorry for your loss. You are in our prayers for peace as you grieve.

6:58 Plumcrazy: Jim I ordered those books just waiting to get them now

6:58 MAS: David Alan: Did you remain in the same house?

6:59 CindyJ: sugarmama....mine said the same thing and I said....that's fine. I love you too. And at the time....I thought we had something to work with.

6:59 David Alan: Surety2: I acted out by seeking relationship outside my marriage. Then I tried to rationalize it and push away from my wife. Jim's books do a great job of defining the stages and helping you to understand what goes through the mind of a MLC'er

6:59 sugarmama: did he come home

6:59 Surety2: Jim/David: thank you so much for as always helping each of us make some sense out of this crazy journey!!!

6:59 David Alan: Thank you Jim. It means a lot to me.

6:59 MAS: CindyJ: Yes, so did I. That's what's kept me hanging on so long...Now I’m not so sure.

7:00 sugarmama: these books are a wonderful resource my h is in denial of mlc and depression

7:00 judysan: david, Jim, thanks for all your help and advice...it helps hearing the men’s perspective

7:01 MAS: Surety: Please send me that updated information. Thanks!

7:01 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: ALL, Look for these books by Jill Briscoe, "The Deep Place Where Nobody Goes; Conversations With God on the Steps of My Soul." Also, "God's Front Door: Private Conversations". And, "Faith Dancing, Conversations in Good Company". Jan and I saw her speak last week, and she is a wonderful author and speaker. You can find these through our Amazon store on our website.

7:01 Surety2: MAS: I will... we have to take each opportunity and usually the earlier in the day they better the chances of flights are.

7:02 Swanlake: All need to go, see you later this week

7:02 Surety2: David@ 659 thanks.... it’s just weird when it gets too close to good and then goes to nothing at all.

7:02 MAS: Surety: Yes, I know. I’m just not able to get to the airport that early. I'd have to leave in the middle of the night.

7:03 David Alan: Jim / Lisa: Can we make donations on the new website to help others attend the retreat?

7:03 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: When we close the Chat Room, I hope you’ll take time lift each other up in prayer. Continue to grow closer to the Lord this week by reading His Word daily. I thank you for joining me today, it’s been fun talking with you. If you got lost during the chat process, check back later to find the edited chat dialogue posted in the archives, there you can read it at your own pace. We, at Midlife Dimensions, will remember you and your marriages in prayer throughout the week. Warmly in Christ, Jim. (Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. James 4:8)

7:04 LisaK [Administrator]: OK, I’m back as myself now.

7:04 Plumcrazy: thank you Dr Conway for being here on Mondays'

7:04 David Alan: LOL

7:04 CindyJ: David...yes you can. Would be wonderful if you could come to the retreat.

7:04 sugarmama: hi lisa

7:04 Plumcrazy: Goodnite all

7:04 Surety2: Plumcrazy feel better

7:04 David Alan: Cindy: I would love to... but am so far behind at work now due to the two weeks I had to take for bereavement leave.

7:04 Surety2: Night all have a great week.

7:05 judysan: thank you all....good night

7:05 LisaK [Administrator]: 7:03 David Alan: YES YES, that would be such a blessing. You can do it on the website, and type "retreat donation" in the reason box. Or you can send a check payable to Midlife Dimensions at P.O. Box 6922, Norco, CA 92860. We would appreciate any amount, we have many that need scholarship help this year. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

7:06 David Alan: Lisa: My pleasure. I truly believe in this ministry. I know how much it helped me.

7:07 LisaK [Administrator]: David Alan, donations via Paypal on our site can be done by e-check or credit card. Paypal does keep a small percentage. If you send a check, MLD gets the entire amount to apply to the retreat. Either is fine though. I can't tell you how much any amount helps, no matter how we get it!! Thank you again!

7:07 David Alan: Good night all. May God bless your socks off!

7:07 CindyJ: Night David!!

7:07 judysan: nice meeting you all.

7:07 sugarmama: good night all talk to you later in week

7:08 CindyJ: and good night everyone.

My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry. James 1:19 (NIV)

7:10 LisaK [Administrator]: Lord, help us in our decision-making. Let us not lean not upon our own understanding, but in all our ways acknowledge you. Lord, help us to see beyond our circumstances into your presence, and help us to see our situations the way that you do, full of possibilities. Thank you for your love and understanding. Amen.

7:11 MAS: Have a good night.

7:12 LisaK [Administrator]: You too. Good night.

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6:32 MAS: Jim: Will you be available for private sessions at the retreat?

6:36 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: MAS: AND ALL ATTENDING THE RETREAT. Yes there will be time at the retreat for us to connect with each other 1-on-1. Or in small groups. These times will be less intensive than what we might do on a telephone counseling session. But Jan and I are hoping to connect with anybody who wants to visit with us personally.

6:32 judysan: Dr Conway, often H is sarcastic and speaks to me (and our 2 kids and players on the high school team he coaches) with a tone...but then he apologizes.. I feel like I am working on your 3 things...what else should I do?

6:38 Dr. Jim Conway [Administrator]: judysan: Your husband is very frustrated with life and that is why he is lashing out. Continue to ask God to give you a great deal of patience.

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