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October 24,, 2018 / Wednesday Chat with Bill

Bill: Swan: Pam and I are working on a proposal for a new book on midlife that will include both men and women in our modern context.

Swan: Bill - that will be great, a modern context is really needed. A couple years back we had a few people in chat that would make comments like "Jim's books were great back then, but..." We would try to tell them that MLC doesn't really change, society does, but if they would read the material they would see that foundation is still relevant. So a book that is more modern and includes both men and women could really be what many are looking for. My opinion is that personal experience is the best wisdom anyone could have, I am glad people like Pam, you, Jim and Sally share that, it helps so much. I thought I was going crazy and everything was falling apart (and I am a compartmental person), just knowing that others had gone through it and sharing it gave me some insight that guided me to the path I am now on.

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October 24,, 2018 / Wednesday Chat with Bill

Swan: Bill - Most studies and written materials on midlife crisis are geared towards the male being the one going through it, but with women's roles taking on many of the stresses that plague men in these times, women are showing more and more signs of midlife crisis as well. Do you know of any books or materials that deal with that aspect of it. There are my husband's mld, men in mld, type books, but I haven't really seen any dealing with the wife's mld. Poor tos is dealing with a mlc wife and through some of her behaviors are the same as a mlc man, women are generally different in some ways and I was wondering if there is any assistance out there to help him more specific.

Bill: Swan: There has not been much work done on this area yet. Jim and Sally wrote a book called Women in Midlife Crisis. Pam has written about a women's midlife adjustment in The 10 Best Decisions a Couple Can Make. It tends to happen earlier for women and tends to different because women are forced to deal with change their whole lives. Many factors that lead to so men's ml crises are usually not factors for women since adjustments are normal. The more pressure we are putting on women, however, are creating scenarios where women are starting to feel some of the same negative influences.

Bill: Swan: Pam also write a book entitled 10 Secrets to Living to Strong, Smart and Savvy. It is a guide for women making the transition through pre-menopause, menopause and post-menopause. It is focused on physical and emotional changes and the benefit of surrounding yourself with women who can sister you through the transitions.

Swan: Bill - I forgot about Women in MLC. tos has been coming into chat more recently and I just want something to recommend to him. I haven't read the 10 secrets book, I will have to read that one so I am more familiar, plus might find it helpful since I am in the third stage.

Bill: Swan: I, of course, think the 10 Secrets book is brilliant and many women have found practical, lasting help from Pam's experience and wisdom. And, we all know how wise Sally is!

Bill: Swan: Pam and I are working on a proposal for a new book on midlife that will include both men and women in our modern context.

Swan: Bill - I never got to meet Sally, but found her books so wise, she seemed like a awesome godly woman.

Bill: Swan: I am sorry you never got to meet her. She was a gem. She is one of the wisest, most godly, most gracious women we have ever met. It is one of our great privileges to have known her and been influenced by her.

Swan: Bill - that will be great, a modern context is really needed. A couple years back we had a few people in chat that would make comments like "Jim's books were great back then, but..." We would try to tell them that MLC doesn't really change, society does, but if they would read the material they would see that foundation is still relevant. So a book that is more modern and includes both men and women could really be what many are looking for. My opinion is that personal experience is the best wisdom anyone could have, I am glad people like Pam, you, Jim and Sally share that, it helps so much. I thought I was going crazy and everything was falling apart (and I am a compartmental person), just knowing that others had gone through it and sharing it gave me some insight that guided me to the path I am now on.

Swan: Bill - When Jim would talk about Sally, you could see in his face and hear in his voice how special she was. I cherish those times at retreats when we got to just sit down with him and talk.

Bill: Swan: Agreed. It will always be an interactive issue. People will always need to ask their questions and share their stories. Others who have been through it will need to share the wisdom they have learned through hard experiences. As technology becomes a bigger and bigger part of life, the context will change even though the issues remain constant.

Bill: Swan: I am going to sign off. I am participating in a strategy meeting so I am going to rejoin that meeting. See you next week.

Swan: Bill - Technology is a great thing, however, in my opinion it might also be a downfall to our youth. It seems everywhere I go, a young one has got a device in their hands, they pay no attention to anything else and I have even seen couples sitting side by side and eyes fixed to a device. I heard a young lady a couple weeks ago ask her husband a question, he didn't respond, so she sent him a text. Ironically, he still didn't answer her verbally, he texted her back. I just could not believe what I saw and me being me actually commented about it. The girl rolled her eyes and shrugged, they guy actually looked at me and laughed, he said we don't fight much that has to be a plus right.

Swan: Night see you next week.

dumbfounded2: To all - Hi everyone

Bill: Swan: Pam and I are working on a proposal for a new book on midlife that will include both men and women in our modern context.

Swan: Bill - that will be great, a modern context is really needed. A couple years back we had a few people in chat that would make comments like "Jim's books were great back then, but..." We would try to tell them that MLC doesn't really change, society does, but if they would read the material they would see that foundation is still relevant. So a book that is more modern and includes both men and women could really be what many are looking for. My opinion is that personal experience is the best wisdom anyone could have, I am glad people like Pam, you, Jim and Sally share that, it helps so much. I thought I was going crazy and everything was falling apart (and I am a compartmental person), just knowing that others had gone through it and sharing it gave me some insight that guided me to the path I am now on.

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