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December 06, 2017 / Wednesday Chat with Bill

Little Magpie: Bill - Seems Her H was not what she thought. Can someone have MIL in their 20's???

Bill: Little Magpie: No, MLC does not happen in the 20s but there are plenty of other reasons people sabotage their lives at any stage of their journey. He is obviously either quite selfish or very wounded. "Hurt people hurt people" which is why all of us need a plan for recovery. We want our future to be much better than our past.

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December 06, 2017 / Wednesday Chat with Bill

Swan: Hi Bill, my computer has been freezing up, sorry I am late.

Bill: Swan: No worries. I am glad for a slow night - I battled food poisoning last night so I am not operating 100%.

Swan: You should go ahead and take off; food poisoning is hard on the body. I got the room if anyone shows.

Bill: Swan: I am going to hang out until 5:30 and then take you up on your offer.

Swan: Hi Little Magpie

Little Magpie: All - Happy Saint Nicholas Day! Bill, I hope you are feeling better

Little Magpie: Hello Swan

Little Magpie: Bill - How was the video conference last night?

Swan: Hi Little Magpie - how has your week been?

Little Magpie: Swan - it has been interesting. Wish I had energy as I forgot to get some St. Nick candy. St Nick brought his usual gifts but forgot the chocolate...

Bill: Little Magpie: I thought the video conference went well. Pam did a great job leading it and the folks who showed up were obviously engage.

Swan: Little Magpie - Sorry but I am not familiar with Saint Nicholas Day!

Little Magpie: Bill - I am glad it went well. I spoke to a friend I had connected with from the cruise (she was part of our group) and she is divorced and living in another state across the country from where she began. She needs prayer as she is angry with God

Little Magpie: Swan - Saint Nicholas' feast day is December 6th. When I was in college I got a book from Thomas Nelson Publishing written by Harold Myra called: Santa are you for real?? I read the book and decided that Santa would have his day and Jesus his and the only mixture of the two is that Santa gives his gifts out of his Love for Jesus

Little Magpie: Bill - They were the Newlyweds of our group

Bill: Little Magpie: Thanks for being there for your friend. She has obviously been through a lot and needs to process some deep wounds. "Jesus, may your grace strengthen Little Magpie and bring supernatural peace to her friend. Lead her friend to a place of forgiveness to help her gain victory over her anger.

Bill: Little Magpie: Ugh - it is always a shame when a marriage comes apart.

Little Magpie: Bill - Seems Her H was not what she thought. Can someone have MIL in their 20's???

Little Magpie: Bill - Thanks for the Prayer

Bill: Little Magpie: No, MLC does not happen in the 20s but there are plenty of other reasons people sabotage their lives at any stage of their journey. He is obviously either quite selfish or very wounded. "Hurt people hurt people" which is why all of us need a plan for recovery. We want our future to be much better than our past.

Little Magpie: Swan - Have you seen the book about the Kneeling Santa called: A Special Place for Santa

Little Magpie: Bill - Amen! Thanks for helping people to navigate and come up with recovery plans

Bill: Little Magpie: I truly believe it is one of our main pursuits on earth. As members of a family, our influence extends to 3 or 4 generations so anything we can do in our lives will help people we may never meet to find eternal hope in our Savior.

Swan: Little Magpie - I haven't seen that book.

Bill: Hey folks, I am going to dismiss myself. I need to lay down for a little bit. I obviously have not fully recovered from last night.

Little Magpie: Swan - They are good. The gist is that Santa gives gifts at Christmas like the wise men who gave gifts to Jesus and the first gift of all he gives to Baby Jesus which in the story happens to be his list of boys and girls. The Myra story tells a legend of Saint Nick helping a family pay dowry to marry daughters to their betrothed and he threw a bag of gold in the window and it landed in drying stockings. He gave anonymously

Swan: Bill - Please take care of yourself, see you next week.

Little Magpie: Bill - Take care! I hope you recover soon!

Little Magpie: Swan - Nick returned a total of 3 times as the man had 3 daughters and the gold was thrown into stockings each time which equates Christmas stockings with him.

Little Magpie: Swan - so I had decided that if I ever got married and had children, I would celebrate Saint Nicholas on his feast day.

Swan: Little Magpie - interesting!

Swan: We have a small tree, buy a small amount of gifts, typically one per person or we set a dollar maximum/no minimum and get together and exchange gifts and have a dinner on Christmas Eve. As my children got older, they spent Christmas Eve with us and then Christmas Day with their spouse’s family. Since my husband has been gone, I am typically alone on Christmas Day. I am invited to spend it with my son's in-laws and I did a couple times, but just feel out of place (not at their doing, they are very welcoming). The past few Christmas Day's my son in law and daughter hang out here (they spend Christmas Eve with us) and we just have a nice visit.

Swan: All the expectations of the Santa Christmas can get stressful and overwhelming, so we decided many years ago to make it more about being with family than getting a bunch of gifts. Bottom line it has been nice on the budget to not get wrapped up in the shopping aspect of the holiday.

Little Magpie: Swan - We have a very small budget and frequently make something small for Christmas. Santa gives our immediate family a Calendar for the next year and a bag of chocolate coins or a chocolate orange. Small and something we can use.

Little Magpie: Swan - we don't put up a tree frequently as we don't have the space. We own a nice and tall tree but it stays in the box most years. We received the tree as a gift our first Christmas.

Little Magpie: Swan - glad you get to spend nice time together with your family

Swan: When we first got married we simply didn't have much money, heck my husband was working two jobs so I could be home with our kids. As our finances got better, we still just didn't get too much into massive buying at Christmas. Even now I put away a small amount of money each payday and that will be my gift budget, or is I see something on a great sale, and then I buy it and put it away for Christmas. We used to buy a full size tree, but here at my son's space is a factor and rather then have to put something out in the garage to make room, we now use a small three foot artificial tree. We are happy with it, so that is really all that matters. We just don't want to get involved in all the stress stuff that typically comes with Christmas. I have actually seen people over spend so much that they have no money the rest of the year for non-essential things or in a couple people's cases, they got physically ill because of the stress they put themselves through. I just want no part of that.

Swan: I am going to head out for tonight; we were really busy at work today and with the family out at a water polo banquet I am going to take a nice hot shower and head to bed early.

Little Magpie: Swan - Have a blessed night and rest of your week. Thank you!

Little Magpie: Bill - Seems Her H was not what she thought. Can someone have MIL in their 20's???

Bill: Little Magpie: No, MLC does not happen in the 20s but there are plenty of other reasons people sabotage their lives at any stage of their journey. He is obviously either quite selfish or very wounded. "Hurt people hurt people" which is why all of us need a plan for recovery. We want our future to be much better than our past.

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